{"id":864,"date":"2007-07-31T18:29:58","date_gmt":"2007-07-31T23:29:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/?p=864"},"modified":"2020-01-03T16:11:41","modified_gmt":"2020-01-03T21:11:41","slug":"books-that-are-really-ideas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/books-that-are-really-ideas\/","title":{"rendered":"Books that are really ideas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Via a comment on <a href=\"http:\/\/althouse.blogspot.com\/2007\/07\/rich-people-read.html\">Ann Althouse&#8217;s blog<\/a>, I skipped over today to this review in the London Times of an essay titled <em>Comment parler des livres que l&#8217;on n&#8217;a pas lus <\/em>(How to discuss books that one hasn&#8217;t read\u009d), which was written by one Pierre Bayard, who is a professor of French literature at the University of Paris VIII. And also (writes the reviewer, Adrian Tahourdin) a &#8220;practising psychoanalyst.&#8221; How beautifully French.<\/p>\n<p>Bayard&#8217;s droll conceit includes a description of the four categories into which he places books:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;LI&#8221; is livres inconnus\u009d (books he is unfamiliar with); &#8220;LP&#8221; livres parcourus (books glanced at); &#8220;LE&#8221; livres dont jai entendu parler\u00a0 (books he has heard discussed) and LO les livres que jai oubli (books he has read but forgotten).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Tahourdin next recounts that <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2sJTEx9\">James Joyce&#8217;s <em>Ulysses<\/em><\/a> falls into the category LE.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[Bayard] claims not to have read the novel, but he can place it within its literary context, knows that it is in a sense a reprise of the Odyssey, that it follows the ebb and flow of consciousness, and that it takes place in Dublin over the course of a single day. When teaching he makes frequent and unflinching references to Joyce.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I suppose we should delight in his honesty.<\/p>\n<p>I also wonder . . . hmmmm . . . what do his students think?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t relate. Having attended a modest state college, I&#8217;m reasonable certain that my lit professors had actually taken the trouble to read the books to which they had the habit of making &#8220;frequent and unflinching references.&#8221; An alarming lack of pretension, I agree. But I forgive them.<\/p>\n<p>Another thought also occurs to me. What does it say about a literary novel when People Who Read Serious Books can sum it up in a single sentence &#8212; sum it up as an idea &#8212; without even having to read it &#8212; and then discuss it, as that idea, amongst themselves?<\/p>\n<p>Where are its roots?<\/p>\n<p>Michael Blowhard wrote this, a couple of days ago, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.2blowhards.com\/archives\/2007\/07\/quote_for_the_d_2.html#004297\">in a post about mystery writer Elizabeth George<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you pull an artform out of the earth it grows from, even if you do so with the best or the loftiest of intentions, it&#8217;s likely to whither and then die.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure we can accuse Joyce of yanking literature out of the earth &#8212; I think he was just marchin&#8217; to the beat of his own drunken Irish drummer &#8212; but in the end he didn&#8217;t need to even if he&#8217;d wanted &#8212; he has the Bayards of the world to do it for him . . .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Via a comment on Ann Althouse&#8217;s blog, I skipped over today to this review in the London Times of an essay titled Comment parler des livres que l&#8217;on n&#8217;a pas lus (How to discuss books that one hasn&#8217;t read\u009d), which &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/books-that-are-really-ideas\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,9,3],"tags":[384,1631,1241,1630,1632,241],"class_list":["post-864","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-book-reviews","category-books","category-writing","tag-books","tag-how-to-discuss-books-that-one-hasnt-read","tag-james-joyce","tag-literature","tag-pierre-bayard","tag-writing-2"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/864","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=864"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/864\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6287,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/864\/revisions\/6287"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=864"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=864"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirstenmortensen.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=864"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}